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. >>> we are now hearing there may be only two people at the fiscal cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks. and clearing a negotiating room improves the chances for success. just 25 minutes from now the closely watched monthly unemployment report will be released for november. coming up at 5:15 what economists say the numbers released this morning don't accurately reflect the current jobs market. >>> time now 5:05. reports an oakland church youth group visiting florida today is out of money and their belongings because thieves broke into their van. a group of 24 teenagers and young adults were eating at a restaurant yesterday. about an hour after arriving for a weekend youth conference. they are saying thieves broke into their van, stole $12,000 cash. one member of the group was able to have money wired to them so they at least spent last night in a hotel. there is no word y
. >>> we are now hearing there may be only two people at the fiscal cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks. and clearing a negotiating room improves the chances for success. just 25 minutes from now the closely watched monthly unemployment report will be released for november. coming...
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coming up the one issue where president obama is refusing to budge in those fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> right now 5:07. we want to check back in with tara who is in for sal. definitely wet roads out there. >> reporter: we do have an accident to report. this is a big rig verses a small pickup truck and an ambulance is on the way. we understand there are injuries involved. here it is right here. 880 northbound near the grand avenue exit. we had somebody needs an ambulance basically. we are keeping an eye on it. all right. up next we will take a live look at 280 in san jose. you can see traffic is actually flowing nicely in both directions. and it's 5:08 let's check in with steve. >> thank you tara. >>> our system is finally moving. this is the last one. it cannot hold a candle to the three that came in before. i will show you rain totals in a second. light rain, drizzle, fog, cloudy. once in awhile moderate rain falls. our system the most amounts were left in the north bay. quarter to an inch of rain. lighter amounts will be south. might get little enhancement. there is not much of a
coming up the one issue where president obama is refusing to budge in those fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> right now 5:07. we want to check back in with tara who is in for sal. definitely wet roads out there. >> reporter: we do have an accident to report. this is a big rig verses a small pickup truck and an ambulance is on the way. we understand there are injuries involved. here it is right here. 880 northbound near the grand avenue exit. we had somebody needs an ambulance...
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now, economists say these numbers are huge for fiscal cliff negotiations. they back president obama's argument that the economy is doing well enough to handle attack -- handle a tax hike for wealthier americans. >> the fact that this this report is strong, i think puts a little bit of wind in his sails. >> reporter: john boehner is holding a news conference here on capitol hill. he's now lead -- he's now leading the negotiations with president obama. we will show -- we will show you -- tell you what he has to say coming up next hour. >>> starting next year, apple will start making some of its products here in the u.s. apple's ceo tim cook says one of its manufacturing operations will be moved here from china. it's not clear where that assembly plant will be. that announcement comes as criticism is mounting. >>> well, clorox corporation has a deal with a san diego- based investor to sell its headquarters building in downtown san diego. west core properties agreed to buy the 24-story building on broadway. the terms of the deal, that has not been disclosed. bu
now, economists say these numbers are huge for fiscal cliff negotiations. they back president obama's argument that the economy is doing well enough to handle attack -- handle a tax hike for wealthier americans. >> the fact that this this report is strong, i think puts a little bit of wind in his sails. >> reporter: john boehner is holding a news conference here on capitol hill. he's now lead -- he's now leading the negotiations with president obama. we will show -- we will show you...
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cliff negotiations. >>> 7:36. software company founder john mcafee could soon return to the united states. his attorney says a guatemala judge has ruled that mcafee adetention in that country is illegal and he could be released as soon as today. mcafee was detained in guatemala last week after entering the country illegally to avoid police in belize who wanted to question mack afy about the fatal shooting of his neighbor. mca -- mcafee has said he wishes to return to the u.s. so he can live in peace. >>> continuing coverage on the shooting in portland, oregon. here's more. >> reporter: good morning, tori. the mall here is closed at this point while police continue their investigation and what motivated this young man to come in yesterday in a crowded mall, people were christmas shopping. we have video -- video. we can show you aerial as police converged on this location. witnesses describe him wearing a hockey style mask, dark cam mow, body armor as -- dark camo, body armor. witnesses say he walked into
cliff negotiations. >>> 7:36. software company founder john mcafee could soon return to the united states. his attorney says a guatemala judge has ruled that mcafee adetention in that country is illegal and he could be released as soon as today. mcafee was detained in guatemala last week after entering the country illegally to avoid police in belize who wanted to question mack afy about the fatal shooting of his neighbor. mca -- mcafee has said he wishes to return to the u.s. so he can...
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fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people, president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence plummeted. a lot of people attributing that to the gridlock in washington. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys and a lot of jobs on the line. possible hiring freezes, furloughs if we go over the cliff. federal agencies now working on reports for the white house, of the cuts they will make if we do actually go over the cliff. a diner, middle-class taxpayers and the vice president, telling republicans a deal to extend tax cuts for all but the wealthy is easy. >> the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. >> reporter: not really. even though the two sides are talking, they aren't making much progress. remember that phone call between
fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people, president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence plummeted. a lot of people attributing that to the gridlock in washington. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys...
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bernanke says the measures won't be enough to keep the economy intact if ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations fail before the deadline. >>> popular hotel is being accused of race 'em. raz entertainment, the company that runs the razz room cabaret at hotel nicco has filed a suit it claim the hotel and its general manager wouldn't extend the club's lease because the spa was bringing too many african-americans into the hotel for their shows. a spokeswoman for the hotel says those claims are not true. >>> is the rain over? meteorologist lisa argen is next with our forecast. >>> we didn't see much, what we call a moisture starved front. as you look at this picture, a few stratocumulus clouds, more sun than showers we'll tack about the cool temperatures, -- we'll talk about the cool temperatures, all coming up. >>> employers have spoken bay area companies ranked some of the best places to work. >>> live look from where the 21st annual food drive is underway santana row in san jose. we check in with the news team around the bay area in three >>> today abc7 is proud to present the 21st annual share y
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. >>> there have been no public comments in the past couple of days about the "fiscal cliff" negotiations which may be a good sign. house speaker john boehner the president are the only parties negotiating right now and no details have leaked out. today congressional democrats will hold a press conference to urge republicans to preserve medicaid funding in the final deal. republicans say cutting entitlement benefits is necessary to curb the country's deficit. >> social security, medicare and medicaid, it is not even on the table. that is our message. >> whoo! >> in 15 cities across california workers and community leaders have been rallying including here in san francisco. they are urging congress to save social safety net programs and increase taxes on the wealthy. >>> south carolina's governor may have closed the door on comedian steve colbert's senate dreams. colbert has been urging fans to pressure governor nickie hailey into picking him for the senate seat to replace jim demint who is retiring. a poll shows colbert is the favorite in the state but the governor has not committed on hi
. >>> there have been no public comments in the past couple of days about the "fiscal cliff" negotiations which may be a good sign. house speaker john boehner the president are the only parties negotiating right now and no details have leaked out. today congressional democrats will hold a press conference to urge republicans to preserve medicaid funding in the final deal. republicans say cutting entitlement benefits is necessary to curb the country's deficit. >> social...
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. >>> silence on both sides of the "fiscal cliff" negotiations could actually be a good sign that the negotiations are progressing. the house speaker john boehner, the president are the only parties negotiating right now. and no details have been released. today congressional democrats will hold a press conference to urge republicans to preserve medicaid funding in the final deal. republicans say cutting entitlements is necessary to curb the it uncountry's deficit. >>> northbound police are trying to figure out the motor -- new york police are trying to figure out the motive of a 2 p.m. afternoon murder yesterday. a 31-year-old man from los angeles was shot in the back of the head near central park. police say the gunman jumped into a waiting car and took off. >>> smoking marriage is now officially legal in colorado. -- smoking marijuana is officially legal in colorado. the governor declared the voter- approved amendment is now part of the state constitution. it allows anyone over 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana for recreational use or six plants. colorado still does not all
. >>> silence on both sides of the "fiscal cliff" negotiations could actually be a good sign that the negotiations are progressing. the house speaker john boehner, the president are the only parties negotiating right now. and no details have been released. today congressional democrats will hold a press conference to urge republicans to preserve medicaid funding in the final deal. republicans say cutting entitlements is necessary to curb the it uncountry's deficit....
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bernanke says the measures won't be enough to keep the economy intact if ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations fail before the deadline. >>> popular hotel is being accused of race 'em. raz entertainment, the company that runs the razz room cabaret at hotel nicco has filed a suit it claim the hotel and its general manager wouldn't extend the club's lease because the spa was bringing too many african-americans into the hotel for their shows. a spokeswoman for the hotel says those claims are not true. >>> is the rain over? meteorologist lisa argen is next with our forecast. >>> we didn't see much, what we call a moisture starved front. as you look at this picture, a few stratocumulus clouds, more sun than showers we'll tack about the cool temperatures, -- we'll talk about the cool temperatures, all coming up. >>> employers have spoken bay area companies ranked some of the best places to work. >>> live look from where the 21st annual food drive is underway santana row in san jose. we check in with the news team >>> today abc7 is proud to present the 21st annual share your holiday food drive. we ha
bernanke says the measures won't be enough to keep the economy intact if ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations fail before the deadline. >>> popular hotel is being accused of race 'em. raz entertainment, the company that runs the razz room cabaret at hotel nicco has filed a suit it claim the hotel and its general manager wouldn't extend the club's lease because the spa was bringing too many african-americans into the hotel for their shows. a spokeswoman for the hotel says those claims are...
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. >>> "fiscal cliff" christmas could be the new warning as negotiations come to a screeching halt once again. >> plus go-kart gone wild. the stunt caught on tape putting drivers in danger. >> and a live look from beverly hymns. the golden globe nominees will be announced right now. we'll update you when we come back. rs. happening right now: ,,,,,,,,,,,, look at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in my day you couldn't just start streaming six ways to sunday. you'd get knocked off. and sometimes, it took a minute to download a song. that's sixty seconds, for crying out loud. we know how long a minute is! sitting, waiting for an album to download. i still have back problems. you're only 14 and a half. he doesn't have back problems. you kids have got it too good if you ask me. [ male announcer ] now u-verse high speed internet has more speed options, reliability and ways to connect. rethink possible. (ad lib) jessica alba, megan fox and ed helms are e >>> happening right now the golden globe nominations are going on in bevel hills. we just saw a few
. >>> "fiscal cliff" christmas could be the new warning as negotiations come to a screeching halt once again. >> plus go-kart gone wild. the stunt caught on tape putting drivers in danger. >> and a live look from beverly hymns. the golden globe nominees will be announced right now. we'll update you when we come back. rs. happening right now: ,,,,,,,,,,,, look at you guys with your fancy-schmancy u-verse high speed internet. you know, in my day you couldn't just...
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a strong sales report for mcdonald's offset wall street's worries about the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. the dow added 15 points while the nasdaq gained 9. with just three weeks left before higher taxes and deep cuts kick in negotiations are under way but it's not known what if any progress is being made. speak in michigan yesterday the president said he is willing to compromise a little. republicans have adamantly opposed raising taxes but now some are considering it if democrats will agree to social security and medicare changes. this week, the federal reserve is expected to announce a new bond buying program aimed at lower interest rates. if it works it might soften the blow if the nation does go over the "fiscal cliff" but fed chair ben bernanke says if a budget deal isn't reached, there is little the central bank can do to offset the shock of those spending increases and tax cuts. and holiday shopping is leading to more work. leading jobs placement firm says retailers added more than 465,000 seasonal workers last month. that's up 21% from a year ago. that's your moneywatch. for mor
a strong sales report for mcdonald's offset wall street's worries about the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. the dow added 15 points while the nasdaq gained 9. with just three weeks left before higher taxes and deep cuts kick in negotiations are under way but it's not known what if any progress is being made. speak in michigan yesterday the president said he is willing to compromise a little. republicans have adamantly opposed raising taxes but now some are considering it if democrats...
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cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks and those say clearing the negotiating room clears the chances for success. f we have new unemployment numbers released just a few minutes ago. employers added 146,000 new jobs in november. the unemployment rate dropped to a four-year low of 7 .7%. coming up at 6:15 the factors that economists predicted would have a negative impact on the numbers but apparently did not. >>> time now 6:07. we are following this story. oakland church youth group traveling in florida they are out of money and their belongings because thieves broke into their van. a group of 24 teenagers and young adults were eating at a restaurant yesterday about an hour after arriving far weekend youth conference. someone broke into their van stole 12,000 cash. one member of the group says they were able
cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks and those say clearing the negotiating room clears the chances for success. f we have new unemployment numbers released just a few minutes ago. employers added 146,000 new jobs in november. the unemployment rate dropped to a four-year low of 7 .7%. coming...
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the fiscal cliff negotiations come to a stand still as congress gets orders to start making budget cuts. we'll have tea party senator jim demint whether he sees a compromise coming. >>> the stars were shining brightly at madison square garden last night. we're taking you backstage at the big benefit for the victims of superstorm y.
the fiscal cliff negotiations come to a stand still as congress gets orders to start making budget cuts. we'll have tea party senator jim demint whether he sees a compromise coming. >>> the stars were shining brightly at madison square garden last night. we're taking you backstage at the big benefit for the victims of superstorm y.
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i's an ipad, iphone fan. >>> another option on the fiscal cliff negotiating table being considered is raising the age when seniors can start receiving medicare to help ease our debt burden. what do you think, bob pisani? raise the age. is it a good idea? >> of course it is going to help us. we should consider that. that's the most likely thing on the cable. what i'm worried about here, it is very easy to say we'll save a bunch of money, pick a number, $6 billion or whatever the number if we take it off. where do the people go? those 65 to 67-year-olds will go into the private system where these exchanges we're going to have. they're likely going to pay more money there and the premiums are going to go up because of all those seniors. so it isn't free! that's my point. it is not just the government saves money, other people, those seniors are going to pay to be in those exchanges. >> there's no free lunch. >> nothing. >> i think there is good news that with this administration we don't have to worry about having another debate about privatizing social security. you and i, bob, are prob
i's an ipad, iphone fan. >>> another option on the fiscal cliff negotiating table being considered is raising the age when seniors can start receiving medicare to help ease our debt burden. what do you think, bob pisani? raise the age. is it a good idea? >> of course it is going to help us. we should consider that. that's the most likely thing on the cable. what i'm worried about here, it is very easy to say we'll save a bunch of money, pick a number, $6 billion or whatever the...
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. >>> a positive sign in the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken on the phone. the president also met yesterday with ceos of some of the nation's largest companies hoping to convince them of the need of higher tax rates on upper income americans. >> we are not insisting on higher rates out of spite or bickering but, rather, because we need to raise a certain amount of money. >> house majority leader eric cantor echoed of thoughts of his fellow republicans saying more needs to be done about spending. >>> the colorado movie theater where a gunman opened fire during the latest batman movie will finally reopen next month. aurora's mayor says the cineplex will open to the public on january 18. movie theater plans to run free movies for the first couple of days. you may recall 12 people were killed, 58 others injured, when holmes allegedly james holmes opened fire allegedly in july. >>> same-sex marriage is legal in washington signed into law last night by the governor. dozens of people got marri
. >>> a positive sign in the "fiscal cliff" negotiations. president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken on the phone. the president also met yesterday with ceos of some of the nation's largest companies hoping to convince them of the need of higher tax rates on upper income americans. >> we are not insisting on higher rates out of spite or bickering but, rather, because we need to raise a certain amount of money. >> house majority leader eric cantor...
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. >>> coming up next in our 5:00 hour locked out of the battle over the fiscal cliff. why california representative nancy pelosi and other leaders are not being allowed inside the negotiations. >>> oakland raiders fan fights for his life after falling from the third deck during last nights game. what the police are saying this morning. w
. >>> coming up next in our 5:00 hour locked out of the battle over the fiscal cliff. why california representative nancy pelosi and other leaders are not being allowed inside the negotiations. >>> oakland raiders fan fights for his life after falling from the third deck during last nights game. what the police are saying this morning. w
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comments from house speaker john boehner on the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations continuing to weigh on the market. boehner saying spending is the issue getting in the way of a deal. right now the dow is down 74 points. looks like maps on the iphone are headed in a better direction. this is the mover in google maps from the device, apple finally approve of the google its app store. the own attempt at maps was a massive disaster even lead to a rare apology from ceo tim cook. jobless claims fell for a fourth straight week. the market may be improving. marking the second lowest claims this year. you have a slow moving average. that is the latest from the fox business network giving you the power to prosper. ashley: breaking news from major league baseball. the associated press reporting texas rangers gm says josh hamilton has agreed to a contract with the l.a. angels. there you go. tracy: i'm shocked we are even talking about baseball in the middle of winter. ashley: hsbc moving on with the largest fine ever paid by a bank. $1.9 billion for the justice department to settle a money-laund
comments from house speaker john boehner on the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations continuing to weigh on the market. boehner saying spending is the issue getting in the way of a deal. right now the dow is down 74 points. looks like maps on the iphone are headed in a better direction. this is the mover in google maps from the device, apple finally approve of the google its app store. the own attempt at maps was a massive disaster even lead to a rare apology from ceo tim cook. jobless claims fell...
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. >> house speaker john boehner took a break from the fiscal cliff negotiations. to help light of the capitol christmas tree. the tree is an evil man spruce and comes from colorado's white river national forest. it has been outfitted with a 10,000 lights and ornaments. it will be hit each night until the day after christmas. >> we will take a quick break. coming up essex o'clock. a quadruple shooting in oakland last my injures for people which will have live reports coming up. we're also watching the flood levels are around the bay area this morning as to rain is back and we will have a live picture from core take more dear rock creek. plus crews and lafayette are concerned that iran could make the huge seco even worse.
. >> house speaker john boehner took a break from the fiscal cliff negotiations. to help light of the capitol christmas tree. the tree is an evil man spruce and comes from colorado's white river national forest. it has been outfitted with a 10,000 lights and ornaments. it will be hit each night until the day after christmas. >> we will take a quick break. coming up essex o'clock. a quadruple shooting in oakland last my injures for people which will have live reports coming up. we're...
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fiscal cliff negotiations to upcoming debt ceiling votes. >> i will not play that game. we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> it's a sign the two sides have a lot to discuss---once they decide to do so. emily schmidt, kron4 news >> depending on you who you speak with. this wild prank. the hospital got a call from deejays she was pretending to be the queen and he was pretending that he was prince charles. incredibly, the hospital thought that it was correct and they released information. >> the call was put through to the ward and i am not impressed i think it was a pretty poor trick to play. there is no chance that this could have been put to the patient. >>catherine: that's the hospital boss - trying to save face. but a lot of people think it was pretty funny - especially when a nurse began instructing the 'queen' on when she should show up during visiting hours. the radio station is apologizing. >> coming up you could be surprised what is coming through the waterways on its way to san francisco bay. [ crickets chirping ] [ traffic passing ] ♪ [ music box
fiscal cliff negotiations to upcoming debt ceiling votes. >> i will not play that game. we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> it's a sign the two sides have a lot to discuss---once they decide to do so. emily schmidt, kron4 news >> depending on you who you speak with. this wild prank. the hospital got a call from deejays she was pretending to be the queen and he was pretending that he was prince charles. incredibly, the hospital thought that it was correct and...
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maybe this progress or the appearance of some moves the fiscal cliff negotiations. what you see is what house speaker john boehner said he is hopeful a deal will be reached, but also added the g.o.p. wants the white house to provide details on spending cuts. but in the white house wants the same thing from the g.o.p. but either way that is good enough for the market. we took off and we stayed to the upside. so far neither side has been specific on spending cuts so coming up in just one hour o ony 4:00 p.m. eastern, former treasury secretary paul o'neill says he has easiest way to cut spending. fox business exclusive and in this our whole host of leaders in business talking about what specific they want to see. in terms of individual standouts. apple right now about 2% to the upside. some excitement over the iphone 5. how is this for a order in china. brenda marshall says china unicom has more than 300,000 people on the waiting list. nicole petallides with talk about this earlier, but that is enough to boost the stock. sales in china friday, can you imagine the lines
maybe this progress or the appearance of some moves the fiscal cliff negotiations. what you see is what house speaker john boehner said he is hopeful a deal will be reached, but also added the g.o.p. wants the white house to provide details on spending cuts. but in the white house wants the same thing from the g.o.p. but either way that is good enough for the market. we took off and we stayed to the upside. so far neither side has been specific on spending cuts so coming up in just one hour o...
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higher close for stocks yesterday on signs of possible progress in the fiscal cliff negotiations. netflix ceo in the hot seat saying the company's online viewing exceeded a billion hours in june for the first time. posting on facebook does not qualify as the fair public disclosure of information publicly traded companies are supposed to give. if you have a student loan it may get easier to pay it back. the program -- allows students who started taking loans after october 1st, 2007 to plead financial hard ship and limit payments and have the loans forgiven after 20 years. do have you old appliances that need replacing? the so-called consumer durable goods owned by americans are the oldest in nearly half a century. research says that could mean a big spending spree is on the way that could stimulate the u.s. economy. at the new york stock exchange, i'm jane king. >>> attempted jail break didn't go as planned. left screaming for help after he got stuck halfway through a wall. firefighters came to his aid. the 28-year-old had followed a fellow inmate, probably a skinnier one. official
higher close for stocks yesterday on signs of possible progress in the fiscal cliff negotiations. netflix ceo in the hot seat saying the company's online viewing exceeded a billion hours in june for the first time. posting on facebook does not qualify as the fair public disclosure of information publicly traded companies are supposed to give. if you have a student loan it may get easier to pay it back. the program -- allows students who started taking loans after october 1st, 2007 to plead...
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they say they are fed up with the fiscal cliff negotiations and want lawmakers to get their act together. close. in its history. to keep in mind: about 100 protesters held candles that a set of no more tax cuts for the rich and do not cut our benefits. they're asking congress to do the right thing by raising taxes on the top 2 percent. >> we need more revenue and david a. wonderful break for the last 10 years. now we it is time to share the sacrifice that the working people have been doing for all this time it. social security, medicare these are earned benefits, rights they should be a sacred trust. they should not be part of these negotiations right now. we should not be negotiation or compromise in people's futures this is time to step up for the 99%. it will ultimately be the best for the economy. >> people worry that a social security is cut it will not be able to make ends meet. >> without a social security i would be out on the street! >> reggie kumar, kron 4. >> the window to ship your guess so they arrive on time is beginning to close. shipping companies are getting bombarded, f
they say they are fed up with the fiscal cliff negotiations and want lawmakers to get their act together. close. in its history. to keep in mind: about 100 protesters held candles that a set of no more tax cuts for the rich and do not cut our benefits. they're asking congress to do the right thing by raising taxes on the top 2 percent. >> we need more revenue and david a. wonderful break for the last 10 years. now we it is time to share the sacrifice that the working people have been...
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cliff negotiations. right now, dow down 76 points. fox news reports former republican senator hagel emerged at the leading con tender to be president obama's pick to be secretary of defense, according to several democrats briefed on the process. the same sources say senator john kerry is talked up within the administration as a more likely nominee for secretary of state over susan rice, the current u.s. ambassador not united nations. a new study suggests this christmas travel season could be the busiest in six years. aaa predicts more than 93 million americans hitting the highways over the holidays, just 400,000 people shy of the record set in 2006. we continue our count down to the closing bell with the woman who likes her politics the same hi way likes her martinis, shaken, not stirred. liz: no, a mojito, light on the rum, adam. get it right. >> you look like a vodka woman to me, i don't know. liz: never. can't deal with that. a rough year for jcpenney, but things changing. the stock popped, but now th
cliff negotiations. right now, dow down 76 points. fox news reports former republican senator hagel emerged at the leading con tender to be president obama's pick to be secretary of defense, according to several democrats briefed on the process. the same sources say senator john kerry is talked up within the administration as a more likely nominee for secretary of state over susan rice, the current u.s. ambassador not united nations. a new study suggests this christmas travel season could be...
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and more people trust him to handle fiscal cliff negotiations than speaker boehner to handle the pole. poll. is that why people feel he's going to win at least talking about taxes. >> one, the approval rating is very high. two, republicans go either way. whether republicans want to cut a deal and raise taxes just on the rich or whether they won't go with a deal on january 1st, you'll see taxes to rise on everybody. there's a feeling with democrats they're going to win and get what they want either way. this is trufrustrating republic. when i talk to republicans privately, they say this is hugest from trags. the speaker has put $800 billion on the table and said he would go higher than if the president would come along with spending cuts. >> how high are you hearing? >> it's unclear. i think he's just signaling a willingness which many republicans tell me will also end up being a move on the tax rates. but he can't go there with his caucus, unless he has the spending cuts that he can sell $800 billion in revenue, and we're going to get you $800 billion in spending cuts. democrats don't
and more people trust him to handle fiscal cliff negotiations than speaker boehner to handle the pole. poll. is that why people feel he's going to win at least talking about taxes. >> one, the approval rating is very high. two, republicans go either way. whether republicans want to cut a deal and raise taxes just on the rich or whether they won't go with a deal on january 1st, you'll see taxes to rise on everybody. there's a feeling with democrats they're going to win and get what they...
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after that look of the status of the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations between congress and the white house. >>
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well, there were other developments aside from the fiscal cliff negotiations today. apple today, big loser once again. the stock continues in a free fall. bertha coombs on the latest on apple. >> that fall on apple really affecting the overall market. apple closing at the lows of the day. the concerns, essentially, are fundamental, that they may be losing market share when it comes to ipad, slower iphone sales, but also technical. they're really seeing the stock moving below some support levels here. then also, the financials. that was the other side of this. citi with that announcement they were cutting their costs. today one of the big gainers. that set off a rally in financials. bank of america closing about $10 for the first time in 17 months. >> all right, bertha. thanks so much. hopes running high for pandora media, meanwhile. >> the radio advertising market alone that we're just beginning to scratch the surface of is a $15 billion plus market. we're a leader in mobile, which is set to become another $15 billion plus market. >> we're going to hear more from the
well, there were other developments aside from the fiscal cliff negotiations today. apple today, big loser once again. the stock continues in a free fall. bertha coombs on the latest on apple. >> that fall on apple really affecting the overall market. apple closing at the lows of the day. the concerns, essentially, are fundamental, that they may be losing market share when it comes to ipad, slower iphone sales, but also technical. they're really seeing the stock moving below some support...
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cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morni
cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger...
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. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two detroit area school districts shut down for the day as hundreds of teachers plan to join the protest. president obama brought it up during a
. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with...
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cliff negotiations. two questions on that. one is, does that suggest that there is movement, so we're no longer talking about tax cuts or tax increases? and where is the administration, i know you guys have argued back that they have provided details on spending cuts, but are you prepared to offer more? today you have a letter from c.b.o.'s urging that spending cuts, entitlement adjustments and so forth be a multiple, a greater multiple than revenues. is the white house prepared to do more on that front? >> let me take your questions in relative order. first of all, i did hear what the speaker of the house had to say. and i would note that if there is one fact that should not be in dispute it ought to be this, the president, unlike any other party to these negotiations, has put forward detailed spending cuts as well as detailed revenue proposals. it is a simple fact that the president put those forward to the nat so super supercommittee in september of 2011. and that he again in the process of these nego
cliff negotiations. two questions on that. one is, does that suggest that there is movement, so we're no longer talking about tax cuts or tax increases? and where is the administration, i know you guys have argued back that they have provided details on spending cuts, but are you prepared to offer more? today you have a letter from c.b.o.'s urging that spending cuts, entitlement adjustments and so forth be a multiple, a greater multiple than revenues. is the white house prepared to do more on...
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we've got this negotiation for the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what is the impact to your business? >> well, there would be an impact on consumption, for sure. so when it comes to puma or mainstream brands in america in sports, there will be a for sure some consequences in terms of consumption. but i see that as an investment for the future. so it might be a little bit different from some of other ceos. we have to get over the fiscal cliff. let's not delay the thing. it needs efforts. let's make them short for a better future. i think we should be ready as a corporation, being ready for maybe a year of difficult market, difficult situation in the market because that is a ceiling on our growth in terms of economical growth as to be released. it's really me an investment for the future. >> you're seeing a similar situation in france where we're talking about the possibility of capital gains taxes and dividend taxes going much higher. what will that do to the investor class, to the entrepreneurialism that we're seeing
we've got this negotiation for the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what is the impact to your business? >> well, there would be an impact on consumption, for sure. so when it comes to puma or mainstream brands in america in sports, there will be a for sure some consequences in terms of consumption. but i see that as an investment for the future. so it might be a little bit different from some of other ceos. we have to get over the fiscal cliff. let's not delay the thing. it...
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major garrett has new details on fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> plus ceo of general electric jeff immelt tells us why both sides need to act now. >>> it's a mess in parts of the midwest this morning. an early storm drops morha
major garrett has new details on fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> plus ceo of general electric jeff immelt tells us why both sides need to act now. >>> it's a mess in parts of the midwest this morning. an early storm drops morha
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so that's why in the fiscal cliff negotiations it would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea of the president, john boehner, the key players, getting together with no staff in the room. the second thing, they've got to be guided by a couple of things. number one, what is best for the nation? not my party, not my philosophy, not necessarily my politics. number two -- >> you'd like it one on one. >> editd' i'd like it one on on discuss specifics in a one on one way. second, they may agree there should be short-term steps and long-term steps, i think we can get there. the nation is counting on them doing something significant. >> saints/giants this weekend? >> i've got t
so that's why in the fiscal cliff negotiations it would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be...
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>> the fed told you everything they want to know as far as their thinking towards the fiscal cliff negotiations. they have said, threw down the gauntlet, we're going to be here. the global u.s., the economy is of the fed, by the fed, for the fed. we have now $65 trillion worth of global assets tied up at zero interest economies. what's that doing for economies? they are looking for yield, junk bond issuance at its highest level ever by allotted, so you're seeing -- that's where this trade is going to keep going. investors setting themselves up for a lot of trouble. the third thing is now basically investors are at sea. what do you do? i'll tell you a very telling story. bank of america 2013 outlook. they are super bullish and hung a 1600 on the s&p next year and said the biggest downside risk improvement in the u.s. economy because that might get the fed to scale back. that's how you show how dependant we are and what little confidence they have of what's going on in washington. >> does that mean if we get a deal any time soon out of washington that the market rallies and the volatility ends, o
>> the fed told you everything they want to know as far as their thinking towards the fiscal cliff negotiations. they have said, threw down the gauntlet, we're going to be here. the global u.s., the economy is of the fed, by the fed, for the fed. we have now $65 trillion worth of global assets tied up at zero interest economies. what's that doing for economies? they are looking for yield, junk bond issuance at its highest level ever by allotted, so you're seeing -- that's where this trade...
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including negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff. former comptroller general david walker and former congressional budget office director rudy penner explained why they think raising taxes will not solve all the problems. this is just over an hour. >> i will make a few introductory remarks. today we are going to talk about three issues briefly. one is that fiscal cliff, to is the debt ceiling. three is the so-called big deal that has to be done on our debt and deficit. of fortunately those issues, convoluted, especially in this town. they are distinct. the impact each other but they are distinct. this fiscal cliff is an artificial state. congress came in, said this law expires on this date. they extended it wants. they put in the sequestration. it is a date. all they have to do is extend the date and allow themselves time to discuss the issues. instead they are putting it all into a lame duck session. that is a problem. sometimes it leads to bad policy. the fiscal cliff can have real consequences. cbo has said that it would cause a r
including negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff. former comptroller general david walker and former congressional budget office director rudy penner explained why they think raising taxes will not solve all the problems. this is just over an hour. >> i will make a few introductory remarks. today we are going to talk about three issues briefly. one is that fiscal cliff, to is the debt ceiling. three is the so-called big deal that has to be done on our debt and deficit. of...
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the president's refusal to budge in negotiations with the g.o.p. on fiscal cliff talks. joining me now university of chicago booth school of business professor and former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama, dr. austan goolsbee. dr. goolsbee, where is the stethoscope? come on, i see it there hello, good to see you, austin. >> hey, laura great to see you again. i painted the pictures why conservatives should figure it out and not be in despair. on the other side of the equation you have the president. let's say the president gets his tax hikes. you know, everyone thinks they are going to have higher taxes in the new year. so he gets tax hikes. but then what? i mean, the new normal that's being painted by your friends over at the oecd say our girls will probably be about 2.2%. 2% maybe if we're luck in next year. the new normal even with high taxes doesn't look good. >> yeah. let's hope it's higher than that i think it's going to be a bumpy 60 days in my view. fiscal cliff. as low as that 2% is. the awful state of the world right now is that
the president's refusal to budge in negotiations with the g.o.p. on fiscal cliff talks. joining me now university of chicago booth school of business professor and former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama, dr. austan goolsbee. dr. goolsbee, where is the stethoscope? come on, i see it there hello, good to see you, austin. >> hey, laura great to see you again. i painted the pictures why conservatives should figure it out and not be in despair. on the other...
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it -- he has been very involved in the fiscal cliff negotiations. before he was a senator, he was governor of virginia. before that, he was co-founder of nextell. stephen case was co-founder of america online. he is a rabid twitterer. i feel like i know all the details of your life. he is a relentless opponent of entrepreneurship. we are very fortunate to have these three panelists. they each get five to seven minutes. i think we will get through it. five to seven minutes to discuss the topic. we will have a conversation among us. then we will open it up to you. hopefully we will get to all the -- all of your comments and questions. we'll start with professor sullivan. >> i am delighted to be here this evening. not only because the topic is important and the panelists are interesting, but because this conference recognizes mort kaplan, somebody i am pleased to have the opportunity to speak on behalf of tonight. we're looking tonight at immigration policy and how it affects our -- our ability to attract high skilled immigrants. we're speaking of scie
it -- he has been very involved in the fiscal cliff negotiations. before he was a senator, he was governor of virginia. before that, he was co-founder of nextell. stephen case was co-founder of america online. he is a rabid twitterer. i feel like i know all the details of your life. he is a relentless opponent of entrepreneurship. we are very fortunate to have these three panelists. they each get five to seven minutes. i think we will get through it. five to seven minutes to discuss the topic....
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. >> bret: the back and forth today in the fiscal cliff negotiations that aren't really negotiations as they're not sitting in one room. today, the treasury secretary tim geithner said in an interview that there is a little bit of progress. but yes, the white house would, "absolutely go over the fiscal cliff" if the republicans would not raise tax rates. now republicans are pointing back to july 2011. this statement by president obama. >> yes, said give us $1.# trillion in additional revenues that could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes. eliminating deductions. and engaging in a tax reform process that could lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> bret: the white house is saying it's out of context but not specifically how out of context. bring in the panel. steve hayes for "weekly standard." kirsten powers for daily beast. syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. charles? >> look, i love when the president says we need conceptual break through. meaning the republicans have to accept a hike in rates. wh
. >> bret: the back and forth today in the fiscal cliff negotiations that aren't really negotiations as they're not sitting in one room. today, the treasury secretary tim geithner said in an interview that there is a little bit of progress. but yes, the white house would, "absolutely go over the fiscal cliff" if the republicans would not raise tax rates. now republicans are pointing back to july 2011. this statement by president obama. >> yes, said give us $1.# trillion in...
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we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> here we are just weeks away from going over the fiscal cliff. you probably wonder what's going on in these houses in washington. they put themselves and their political gains first and put their future in prosperity second. hey, you voted them in. remember what happened the last time washington got into a budget battle like this? lawmakers put a band aid on the problem and the u.s. lost its aaa credit rating in the process. i warned you about the economic storm headed our way, partly because of europe and partly because of this fiscal cliff. i also told you about an american economic renaissance that could be just ahead. just beyond the storm clouds. the fiscal cliff is fixable. every day washington fails to make a deal, more damage is being done. john king, ken rogath is the former chief economist at the international monetary fund and diane swonk joins us from mezro financial. john, some people say don't sweat it. the threat of going over the fiscal cliff is overblown. it will get done in an 11th hour deal. as you read the politics at play, wh
we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> here we are just weeks away from going over the fiscal cliff. you probably wonder what's going on in these houses in washington. they put themselves and their political gains first and put their future in prosperity second. hey, you voted them in. remember what happened the last time washington got into a budget battle like this? lawmakers put a band aid on the problem and the u.s. lost its aaa credit rating in the process. i warned you about the...
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fiscal cliff. good morning again, everybody. i'm becky quick. here is what we know right now. the pace of private talks picking up speed as we now have just 20 days left. however, neither the white house nor house speaker boehner's office are giving any public indication that either side is yet prepared to give up real ground. on a road trip yesterday, president obama indicated that he is willing to compromise, just not on that point about an increase in tax for relthy americans. meantime, speaker boehner says he is still waiting on specific spending cuts. joining us now for analysis, tony fratto, of hamilton place strategies and former white house press secretary and gerald bernstein former economic adviser to vice president joe biden. gentlemen, thank you for being here with us and getting this special day of coverage kicked off for us. >> rising early and rising above. >> exactly. let's talk about this. jared, it seems like things have gotten quieter. do you think that's the case? is that a good
fiscal cliff. good morning again, everybody. i'm becky quick. here is what we know right now. the pace of private talks picking up speed as we now have just 20 days left. however, neither the white house nor house speaker boehner's office are giving any public indication that either side is yet prepared to give up real ground. on a road trip yesterday, president obama indicated that he is willing to compromise, just not on that point about an increase in tax for relthy americans. meantime,...
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president barack obama hits the road to talk to republicans about the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> all part of the road to the fiscal cliff we've been seeing now. what's the latest, eamon? >> to really push public opinion in his direction on the fiscal cliff talks. the president today making the argument that he's the guy in this debate that wants to lower american taxes. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that, huh? >> and you can tell how confident president barack obama knows how positive his polls are on his side of this issue. but on the game where he's campaigning publicly and negotiating privately. as you said meeting with john boehner at the white house yesterday. and clearly the president is meeting with republicans and then checking back with democrats. we see this pattern now a couple of times last week he met with or spoke to boehner. and then met with nancy pelosi, the democratic leader on capitol hill. today we're told he had a phone call on
president barack obama hits the road to talk to republicans about the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> all part of the road to the fiscal cliff we've been seeing now. what's the latest, eamon? >> to really push public opinion in his direction on the fiscal cliff talks. the president today making the argument that he's the guy in this debate that wants to lower american taxes. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's...
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. >>> the case of the silent tea party in the fiscal cliff negotiations. where in the world is michele bachmann? >>> in the rewrite, what republican house members tell themselves about their history with taxation and what they don't know about the republican party's history with taxation. >>> tony-winning award actor, alan cummings, star of "the good life" will be here. keep an eye for alan cummings. he could be popping up at any moment. you know that. tions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. darrell hasn't been able to visit his mom back east in a long time. [ mom ] things are sometimes a little tight. i wasn't able to go to the wedding. [ emily jo ] since darrell couldn't get home, we decided to bring home to him and then just gave him a little bit of help finding his way. ♪ [ laughs ] [ applause ] i love you. i love you. [ male
. >>> the case of the silent tea party in the fiscal cliff negotiations. where in the world is michele bachmann? >>> in the rewrite, what republican house members tell themselves about their history with taxation and what they don't know about the republican party's history with taxation. >>> tony-winning award actor, alan cummings, star of "the good life" will be here. keep an eye for alan cummings. he could be popping up at any moment. you know that....
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that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was temporary in nature. >> that's not what i asked. i asked what specific would you be willing to do to address what is clearly the number one thing that is going to blow the hole in not only the economy but federal spending, federal budget over the next generation. >> what we have to do is negotiate. everything should be on the table. i think the president indicated that everything would be on the table. the president indicated he is ready to talk about entitlements, et cetera. the other side said we can cannot raise tax hikes at all. we have to make sure that everything is on the table. if everything is
that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was...
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the fiscal cliff does not seem to be going faster with their negotiations. house speaker spoke. we have four winners today. >> delta airlines is buying a 50% stake in virgin atlanta. this is a big left to right east coast. there are picking up more flights there and this is a premium business. this is a huge win for delta. >> they will be filling a gap, i like it but i am not an investor in airlines. warm bus this stated that he would never buy airline. this helps and delta stocks. >> apple stocks all up by 3 percent. there stating that they have up their numbers from a thousand activation is. at&t analyst added that they have up there activation spot as well. >> your novel iyahoo is up. >> she started to roll out new products and new relationships. this is for nbc. they will maintain separate web sites. this gives nbc college cover and there was a new e-mail product they're rolled out. the mill usage is down across the nation because of people taxi and 24texting ang twitter. >> there is a ugly chapter on wall street about the 2008 bailout. people freaked out when eight i g get
the fiscal cliff does not seem to be going faster with their negotiations. house speaker spoke. we have four winners today. >> delta airlines is buying a 50% stake in virgin atlanta. this is a big left to right east coast. there are picking up more flights there and this is a premium business. this is a huge win for delta. >> they will be filling a gap, i like it but i am not an investor in airlines. warm bus this stated that he would never buy airline. this helps and delta stocks....
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fiscal cliff. looks like everybody's taxes are going up no matter how this thing is comes out. consumer spending accounts for more than 2/3 of economic output. especially important at this time of year of course when a lot of sectors in all of these areas have been struggling, here is a bit of good news. martha: okay. take it. bill: not a lot. if you're driving on the road, thanks to shrinking demand manned lower fuel prices gas is sinking like a stone. a drop of 34 cents in the past month. in st. louis, drivers paying just over $3. even l.a. is paying 3.68. which is below four bucks where they have been for a very long time. even further drops expected in the coming days. martha: a devastating loss this morning. jennie rivera, the mexican american singer on the verge of crossing over to this country in u.s. popularity is presumed to have been killed when a private plane crashed in monterrey, mexico. authorities have not confirmed her debt. her relatives say they have few doubts she was on board th
fiscal cliff. looks like everybody's taxes are going up no matter how this thing is comes out. consumer spending accounts for more than 2/3 of economic output. especially important at this time of year of course when a lot of sectors in all of these areas have been struggling, here is a bit of good news. martha: okay. take it. bill: not a lot. if you're driving on the road, thanks to shrinking demand manned lower fuel prices gas is sinking like a stone. a drop of 34 cents in the past month. in...
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as negotiations as negotiations to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff" continue, republicans were equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. >> his proposal was so outlandish i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> the key sticking point between the two sides hasn't changed -- tax rates for the wealthy. >> the math is clear. the only way to accomplish these things is to allow the rates to go up on the top 2 percent of taxpayers.// >> he's punishing success. we'll put at risk the economic growth that we really need to create the jobs, to create taxpayers and to create the revenue we need to lower our deficit. >> after a white house meeting tuesday, a bipartisan group of governors expressed hope an agreement will be reached, soon. none of us >> but none of us want to see taxes on middle class folks go up and we think it would have a significantly negative impact on our economy but we are not backing one particular plan or the other. >> experts forecast economic turmoil in january, if a deal is not reached. in wash
as negotiations as negotiations to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff" continue, republicans were equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. >> his proposal was so outlandish i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work with. >> the key sticking point between the two sides hasn't changed -- tax rates for the wealthy. >> the math is clear. the only way to accomplish these things is to allow the rates to go...
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is not bad, let's assume not bad, it puts even more of a focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a theory of how i could cause a recession. i would cut back government spending quickly. >> i would raise interest rates to 20%. >> bernanke ought to join the -- look, i think this is what's going to happen. i think it's 50-50 we get a deal. no vacation. no legislation, no vacation. i think that when people get their paycheck at the end of january, they are going to be shocked at how much lower it is. i know these guys in washington, their paycheck isn't affected. i think when you get your paycheck, you're going to say i hate that. it is going to be that big. it's going to be very -- the takeout is going to be
is not bad, let's assume not bad, it puts even more of a focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a...